Public Meeting Notice  Board of Registration of Professional Engineers and Land Surveyors Meeting - 6.25.26

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In accordance with the provisions of M.G.L. c. 30A § 20, notice is hereby given that the Board of Registration of Professional Engineers and Land Surveyors will convene a Board meeting. 

If you need a reasonable accommodation to participate in the meeting, please reach out to Cheryl Yebba at 617-701-8711. The Agency will make best efforts to accommodate requests received in a timely manner. 

 June 25, 2026 Open Meeting

1. The following attendance was recorded: 
   1. Board Members Present Remotely  
      1. Paul Tyrell, PE, PLS, Chairman  
      2. Azu Etoniru, PE, PLS, Vice Chairman 
      3. Edward Englander, Esq., Public Member  
      4. Kenneth Anderson, PLS  
      5. Joyce Hastings, PLS  
      6. Daniel Caron, PE  
      7. Paul Tsang, PE 
      8. Shallan Fitzgerald, PE 
      9. Ronald Willey, PE 
   2. Board Members Not Present  
      1. Nancy Gould, PE, Secretary 
   3. Members of the Public Present Remotely  
      1. Tony LaVerde 
      2. Melissa Cannata 
      3. Hector Granados 
      4. Byron Howell 
      5. Matt 
      6. Khaja Sameer Sadat 
      7. Tim Dutille 
      8. Preston 
      9. Andy 
   4. DOL Staff Members Present Remotely  
      1. Cameron Lease, Executive Director 
      2. Eric Funk, Board Administrator 
      3. Charles Kilb, Board Counsel 
      4. Gianna Rodriguez, Legal Intern 
      5. Salvatore Ciulla, Prosecuting Counsel 
      6. Mary Pixley, Prosecuting Counsel 
      7. Richard Holtz, Deputy General Counsel 
2. 9:00 AM Open Meeting Called to Order 
   1. Discuss Meeting and Conference Call Protocol 
   2. Note recording 
   3. Edward Englander moved to open the public meeting. 
   4. Daniel Caron seconded the motion 
   5. The motion passed by a roll call vote of 8-0. Members in favor: Paul Tyrell, Edward Englander, Kenneth Anderson, Joyce Hastings, Daniel Caron, Paul Tsang, Azu Etoniru, Shallan Fitzgerald. Members opposed: none. Members abstaining: none. 
3. Approval of Meeting Minutes 
   1. May 28, 2026 
      1. Full Board Vote to Approve Meeting Minutes 
         1. Edward Englander moved to approve the meeting minutes. 
         2. Kenneth Anderson seconded the motion. 
         3. The motion passed by a roll call vote of 7-0-1. Members in favor: Paul Tyrell, Edward Englander, Kenneth Anderson, Joyce Hastings, Daniel Caron, Paul Tsang, Shallan Fitzgerald. Members opposed: none. Members abstaining: Azu Etoniru. 
4. Discussion Items 
   1. Comments from Chair 
      1. Chair shared a safety moment to identify emergency exit routes and AED locations when in new buildings. 
5. Board Counsel Legal Report 
   1. Open Meeting Law 
      1. Charles Kilb said he will make this presentation at the end of the public session. 
      2. Chair Tyrell agreed. 
   2. Fine Statutes 
      1. Charles Kilb explained the statutory and regulatory authority the Board has to assess civil administrative penalties as discipline. The Board’s authority mainly stems from Massachusetts General Laws Chapter 112, Section 61, with the exception of civil administrative penalties for unlicensed practice, which stem from Massachusetts General Laws Chapter 112, Section 65A. 
      2. Chair Tyrell asked if these statutes are linked on the Board’s website. 
      3. Edward Englander asked about firms like Fiverr.com which seem to be facilitating the violation of regulations by offering the use of engineering stamps without the consent of the engineer. 
      4. Charles Kilb said that business entities are tougher for the Board to go after because the Board does not offer licenses to business entities, so the Board would have to rely on the unlicensed practice statute instead. 
      5. Daniel Caron said that reviewing the unlicensed practice statute indicates it applies to various different licenses, not just engineers and land surveyors, is there a way to see which statutes just apply to engineers and land surveyors. 
      6. Charles Kilb said the Board’s website identifies which statutes and regulations apply to the Board. 
      7. Cameron Lease asked Charles Kilb to explain how the unlicensed practice statute applies when the Board wants to discipline an engineer for land surveying, or vice versa, given that they are licensees. 
      8. Charles Kilb explained that there are several options including the use of the unlicensed practice statute or the statute that prohibits practicing beyond the scope of their licensure. 
      9. Chair Tyrell asked what the Board should do if a licensee of another Board (e.g. an Architect) engages in the unlicensed practice of engineering or land surveying, or vice versa, should that be handled by the Board or by the Board of Architects? 
      10. Charles Kilb explained that while the unlicensed practice of architecture would be a matter for the Board of Architects, one of our licensees practicing beyond the scope of their license could be acted upon by the Board. 
      11. Chair Tyrell said that in those cases, there could be a matter before the Board and the Board of Architects. 
      12. Charles Kilb agreed. 
6. Executive Director Report 
   1. NCEES Enforcement Exchange 
      1. Cameron Lease gave background information on the NCEES Enforcement Exchange and the Board’s process of filing complaints against licensees that have failed to disclose discipline in another state, in violation of 250 CMR 5.09(1). The Board filed four new complaints this past month through this process.   
   2. UK MRA Update 
      1. Cameron Lease explained that the Board recently voted to join the UK MRA, which allows licensees in Massachusetts and the UK to obtain reciprocal licensure and bypass a few requirements. He explained that while the Board is a member of the MRA, it has not yet begun accepting applications under the MRA because the Board’s current application vendor’s system is unable to accept addresses from outside the US or non-US banking institutions. He will keep the Board updated on the progress to make those updates. 
      2. Azu Etoniru asked if Professional Engineers licensed by the Board will be able to apply for Chartered Engineer status in the UK when the Board begins accepting applications under the UK MRA. 
      3. Cameron Lease said that may be possible now, but he will check with NCEES and the UK Engineering Council. It may be that the Board needs to begin accepting applications 
7. Review of Applications 
   1. Application Discussion 
      1. Daniel Caron said he was asked to review a candidate with 20 years of experience, but most of the experience the applicant provided was review of shop drawings. He thought the Board should not approve such an application and wanted to gauge other Board members’ opinions. 
      2. Chair Tyrell agreed that shop drawing review contains little actual engineering and is more the practice of construction. He asked Daniel Caron, when electrical engineers are reviewing shop drawings, are they reviewing for code-related decisions or making any engineering decisions? 
      3. Daniel Caron said the review mainly consists of identifying whether the drawings are consistent with the submitted product. 
      4. Chair Tyrell said it sounds like there are not many engineering decisions being made. 
   2. Application Review Report 
      1. Full Board Vote to Approve Application Review Report 
         1. Edward Englander moved to approve the report. 
         2. Daniel Caron seconded the motion. 
         3. The motion passed by a roll call vote of 8-0-1. Members in favor: Paul Tyrell, Edward Englander, Joyce Hastings, Daniel Caron, Paul Tsang, Azu Etoniru, Shallan Fitzgerald, Ronald Willey. Members opposed: none. Members abstaining: Kenneth Anderson. 
      2. Ronald Willey asked how many applicants the Board had this month, it appears there were only two. 
      3. Eric Funk explained that there were not only two applicants, but only two applicants were allowed to move forward. All other applicants needed to provide further information for the Board. 
      4. Ronald Willey asked how many applicants the Board received this month. 
      5. Eric Funk said the grand total of applicants for June exceeded 100, with over 500 applicants so far in 2026. 
8. Subcommittee Meetings and Reports 
   1. JP Exam Subcommittee Report 
      1. Joyce Hastings reported that the JP Exam Subcommittee met recently to review and score the results from the April 2026 JP Exam. There were seven exam takers, of which four were Massachusetts residents and three were first-time test-takers. Two exam takers passed, both of which were first-time test-takers and Massachusetts residents. Each subcommittee member has been assigned a section of the test to begin writing additional questions for the question bank. The subcommittee has set up additional meetings to discuss that progress. 
      2. Daniel Caron asked what a passing score is. 
      3. Joyce Hastings said it is 70%. 
      4. Chair Tyrell asked if that is set every time. 
      5. Joyce Hastings said it is set every time the exam is administered, but it is almost always 70%. 
      6. Chair Tyrell said scoring of the exam and the results the Board receives are based on several types of analyses that are conducted by the subcommittee. 
      7. Full Board Vote to Approve Report 
         1. Edward Englander moved to approve the report. 
         2. Daniel Caron seconded the motion. 
         3. The motion passed by a roll call vote of 9-0. Members in favor: Paul Tyrell, Edward Englander, Kenneth Anderson, Joyce Hastings, Daniel Caron, Paul Tsang, Azu Etoniru, Shallan Fitzgerald, Ronald Willey. Members opposed: none. Members abstaining: none. 
9. Correspondence 
10. Board Counsel Legal Report 
    1. Charles Kilb made a presentation about the Massachusetts Open Meeting Law. 
    2. Chair Tyrell asked for a copy of the slides. 
    3. Charles Kilb said he would get them to the Board members. 
    4. Joyce Hastings asked if the JP Exam Subcommittee meetings are posted for the public and whether minutes are required to be taken, because the subcommittee uses Executive Session. 
    5. Charles Kilb said Executive Session does require a type of minutes, and we will ensure that the subcommittee is maintaining compliance. 
    6. Chair Tyrell thanked the Board and the Division for ensuring the Board complies with the relevant laws and regulations. 
    7. Ronald Willey noted that Public Comment was not an agenda item this month. Was that on purpose? 
    8. Charles Kilb explained that the agency has standardized this recently. While there is not a dedicated public comment agenda item, the Chair can allow public comment at any time of the meeting. Because this is not a public hearing, public comment is not required. 
    9. Ronald Willey asked if exam preparation in a group setting would be a public meeting. 
    10. Charles Kilb said that exam preparation is usually done in Executive Session to protect the integrity of the exam questions. 
    11. Daniel Caron asked for the presentation slides. 
    12. Charles Kilb said that will be provided to members. 
    13. Edward Englander asked how to add an item to the Board meeting agenda. 
    14. Chair Tyrell said to send it for the Chair’s consideration. 
    15. Charles Kilb added that it could be addressed in the “Topics not reasonably anticipated” section of the agenda or to be added to an agenda it can be sent to the Executive Director or the Chair, but members should not send an email to the entire Board. 
    16. Joyce Hastings asked if it makes a difference with regards to public meetings if the subcommittee only includes two Board members. 
    17. Charles Kilb said that as long as the Board has vested some authority in that subcommittee, a meeting of the subcommittee is considered a public meeting. 
    18. Chair Tyrell thanked Charles Kilb again for his presentation. 
    19. Edward Englander moved to close the public meeting and move into Investigative Conference. 
    20. Paul Tsang seconded the motion. 
    21. The motion passed by a roll call vote of 8-0. Members in favor: Paul Tyrell, Edward Englander, Kenneth Anderson, Joyce Hastings, Daniel Caron, Paul Tsang, Azu Etoniru, Ronald Willey. Members opposed: none. Members abstaining: none. 
11. Topics not reasonably anticipated 48 hours in advance of meeting 
12. Executive Session 
    1. CLOSED per M.G.L. c. 30A, § 21(a)(1), Individual Character Rather Than Competence 
13. Quasi-Judicial Session 
    1. CLOSED per M.G.L. c. 30A, § 18 
14. Investigative Conference 
    1. CLOSED per M.G.L. c. 112, § 65C 
    2. Case Status Report 
    3. Complaint Committee Report 
       1. Cases 
          1. 2026-000193-IT-ENF - Dismiss 
          2. 2026-000130-IT-ENF - Refer to Prosecution 
          3. 2026-000125-IT-ENF - Refer to Prosecution 
          4. 2026-000106-IT-ENF – Refer to Prosecution 
       2. Full Board Vote to Approve Complaint Committee Report 
    4. Proposed Settlements from Prosecutions 
       1. 2024-000940-IT-ENF - Accepted 
       2. 2024-000745-IT-ENF - Rejected

It is anticipated that the topics shown below will be discussed at the aforementioned meeting:  

1. Open Meeting Called to Order 
   1. Discuss Meeting and Conference Call Protocol 
   2. Note recording
2. Approval of Meeting Minutes 
   1. May 28, 2026 
      1. Full Board Vote to Approve Meeting Minutes
3. Discussion Items 
   1. Comments from Chair 
4. Board Counsel Legal Report 
   1. Open Meeting Law 
   2. Fine Statutes
5. Executive Director Report 
   1. NCEES Enforcement Exchange 
   2. UK MRA Update
6. Review of Applications 
   1. Application Discussion 
   2. Application Review Report 
      1. Full Board Vote to Approve Application Review Report
7. Subcommittee Meetings and Reports 
   1. JP Exam Subcommittee Report 
      1. Full Board Vote to Approve Report
8. Correspondence
9. Topics not reasonably anticipated 48 hours in advance of meeting
10. Investigative Conference 
    1. CLOSED per M.G.L. c. 112, § 65C
11. Adjournment
    1. Full Board Vote to Adjourn Public Meeting