Public Meeting Notice  Board of Registration of Professional Engineers and Land Surveyors Meeting - 3.26.26

Minutes of the March 26, 2026 Open Meeting

1. The following attendance was recorded:
   1. Board Members Present Remotely 
      1. Paul Tyrell, PE, PLS, Chairman  
      2. Azu Etoniru, PE, PLS, Vice Chairman 
      3. Nancy Gould, PE, Secretary 
      4. Edward Englander, Esq., Public Member  
      5. Daniel Caron, PE  
      6. Kenneth Anderson, PLS  
      7. Joyce Hastings, PLS  
      8. Shallan Fitzgerald, PE
   2. Board Members Not Present  
      1. Ronald Willey, PE 
      2. Paul Tsang, PE
   3. Members of the Public Present Remotely  
      1. James Waters 
      2. Nick Brault 
      3. Tony LaVerde 
      4. Walter Sullivan 
      5. Jay Doddaballapur 
      6. Melissa Cannata 
      7. Eric Locwin 
      8. Jude Osei-Bonsu 
      9. Dave Mejorado
   4. DOL Staff Members Present Remotely  
      1. Cameron Lease, Executive Director 
      2. Charles Kilb, Board Counsel  
      3. Salvatore Ciulla, Prosecuting Counsel
2. 9:00 AM Open Meeting Called to Order   
   1. Discuss Meeting and Conference Call Protocol   
   2. Note recording 
   3. Edward Englander moved to open the public meeting. 
   4. Nancy Gould seconded the motion 
   5. The motion passed by a roll call vote of 8-0. Members in favor: Paul Tyrell, Edward Englander, Nancy Gould, Daniel Caron, Kenneth Anderson, Azu Etoniru, Joyce Hastings, Shallan Fitzgerald. Members opposed: none. Members abstaining: none. 
3. Approval of Meeting Minutes 
   1. February 26th, 2026 Meeting 
      1. Full Board Vote to Approve Minutes 
         1. Edward Englander moved to approve the minutes. 
         2. Nancy Gould seconded the motion. 
         3. Shallan Fitzgerald asked whether the minutes need to record who seconds motions, and clarified her comments on the previous minutes. 
         4. Cameron Lease said he would correct the previous minutes. 
         5. Charles Kilb said that there has been at least one opinion of the Attorney General’s Office saying that public meeting minutes must include the names of all individuals who make motions and second motions. 
         6. Shallan Fitzgerald said that Robert’s Rules does not require the recording of who seconds motions. 
         7. Charles Kilb clarified that while our regulations are based on Robert’s Rules, they are not exactly the same, and the regulations do require recording who seconds a motion. 
         8. The motion passed by a roll call vote of 7-0-1. Members in favor: Paul Tyrell, Edward Englander, Nancy Gould, Kenneth Anderson, Azu Etoniru, Joyce Hastings, Shallan Fitzgerald. Members opposed: none. Members abstaining: Daniel Caron.   
4. Discussion Items 
   1. Comments from Chair 
      1. Chair shared a safety tip that it is getting warmer but we will still have cold days so remain prepared. 
      2. Chair shared that he, Cameron Lease, and Charles Kilb are continuing to inquire with NCEES about potential language to share with licensees regarding stamp integrity, and there will be further updates. 
   2. NCEES Annual Meeting 
      1. Chair shared that Azu Etoniru and himself are both separately funded delegates, and that the Board gets three additional funded delegates. If members are interested, they should email Cameron Lease. 
      2. Edward Englander asked when and where the NCEES Annual Meeting is. 
      3. Chair shared that it is in the third week of August, in Henderson, Nevada. 
5. Board Counsel Legal Report 
   1. Charles Kilb shared that if Board members would like to discuss further regulatory changes, those can be discussed at subsequent meetings. 
   2. Chair asked to discuss continuing education or ethics requirement regulations for licensure. Chair asked Charles Kilb how this should be discussed. 
   3. Charles Kilb said that the Board can discuss this generally at a subsequent meeting, and if the Board feels the need to create a subcommittee to discuss further, they can do so. 
   4. Daniel Caron said that continuing education requirements should include understanding of the statutes and regulations in Massachusetts. 
6. Executive Director Report 
   1. NCEES Enforcement Exchange 
      1. Cameron Lease reported that the Board recently filed 5 complaints against individuals who failed to report discipline in other states to the Board, a few of them were screened out because the license was expired but they are still on record. He anticipates the Board will file several more complaints by the next meeting. 
   2. Case Status Report 
   3. New System Update 
      1. Cameron Lease reported that DOL is switching to a new database system. 
      2. Chair asked whether a demonstration could be made of how the new system works. 
      3. Cameron Lease said only a couple boards have gone live in the new system so far, the Board is scheduled to switch over in late summer/early fall. He will see what can be made in terms of a demonstration. 
      4. Paul Tyrell said that it would be helpful if the Board can be educated as part of this process, whatever works. 
      5. Charles Kilb said that the system is down over the weekend to allow new Boards to come online, but it will be back up next week. 
   4. UK MRA Update 
      1. Cameron Lease reported that the Board promulgated regulations allowing it to join the UK MRA, and the next step is for the Board to enter into an agreement with the UK Engineering Council. The DOL is still reviewing this. 
7. Review of Applications 
   1. Application Questions 
   2. Applicant Suitability Discussion (if required) 
   3. Application Review Report 
      1. Full Board Vote to Approve Application Review Report 
         1. Edward Englander moved to approve the Application Review Report. 
         2. Azu Etoniru seconded the motion 
         3. The motion passed by a roll call vote of 8-0. Members in favor: Paul Tyrell, Edward Englander, Nancy Gould, Daniel Caron, Kenneth Anderson, Azu Etoniru, Joyce Hastings, Shallan Fitzgerald. Members opposed: none. Members abstaining: none. 
8. Subcommittee Meetings and Reports 
   1. Oral Exam Interview Subcommittee 
      1. Joyce Hastings reported that the Oral Exam Interview Subcommittee met and interviewed 8 applicants, and recommended 2 to move forward to sit for the JP exam. She explained that the Subcommittee asks relatively simple questions to the applicants and assesses whether the applicant has actually reviewed Massachusetts law for land surveyors, and has some understanding of regulations. She reported that the low advancement rate is not representative of usual sessions. 
      2. Chair explained that the applicants who are not allowed to move forward to sit for the JP exam are given several recommendations for advancing their knowledge to pass the oral exam the next time they apply. 
      3. Full Board Vote to Approve Oral Exam Interview Subcommittee Report 
         1. Edward Englander moved to approve the Oral Exam Interview Subcommittee Report. 
         2. Nancy Gould seconded the motion. 
         3. The motion passed by a roll call vote of 8-0. Members in favor: Paul Tyrell, Edward Englander, Nancy Gould, Daniel Caron, Kenneth Anderson, Azu Etoniru, Joyce Hastings, Shallan Fitzgerald. Members opposed: none. Members abstaining: none.   
9. Correspondence 
   1. Letter from Board of Architects re: 2025-000898-IT-ENF 
      1. Cameron Lease explained this is a dismissal letter from the Board of Architects for a complaint filed by the Board of Engineers. 
      2. Chair said it would be helpful to understand the background of why the Board filed the complaint and why it was dismissed. 
      3. Cameron Lease said that the dismissal letter is standard and is the same one this Board uses so the Board may not be able to get further information on why it was dismissed, but the Board can discuss why it was filed, likely in Complaint Committee. 
   2. Letter Requesting Lift of Probation: D. K. 
      1. Chair explained that when licensees are put on probation, they are required to request that the Board lift their probation at the end of their probation period. 
      2. Edward Englander moved to lift the probation on the licensee. 
      3. Azu Etoniru seconded the motion. 
      4. The motion passed by a roll call vote of 8-0. Members in favor: Paul Tyrell, Edward Englander, Nancy Gould, Daniel Caron, Kenneth Anderson, Azu Etoniru, Joyce Hastings, Shallan Fitzgerald. Members opposed: none. Members abstaining: none.   
10. Topics not reasonably anticipated 48 hours in advance of meeting 
11. Public Comment 
12. Executive Session 
    1. CLOSED per M.G.L. c. 30A, § 21(a)(1), Individual Character Rather Than Competence 
13. Quasi-Judicial Session 
    1. CLOSED per M.G.L. c. 30A, § 18 
14. Investigative Conference 
    1. CLOSED per M.G.L. c. 112, § 65C
15. Adjournment
    1. Full Board Vote to Adjourn Public Meeting 
       1. Edward Englander moved to adjourn the public meeting. 
       2. Azu Etoniru seconded the motion. 
       3. The motion passed by a roll call vote of 8-0. Members in favor: Paul Tyrell, Edward Englander, Nancy Gould, Daniel Caron, Kenneth Anderson, Azu Etoniru, Joyce Hastings, Shallan Fitzgerald. Members opposed: none. Members abstaining: none.